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-====== Slow PC ======+====== Experience says.... ======
  
-This page is going to be "work in progress" for a while. Why? Analysis of a Slow PC can expose more than one contributor to a slow PCUsing Windows Task Manager is usually an important part of analysis+It has been couple of years since the Help Center started replacing HD with SSD, as common practice, to resolve performance and/or broken HD issuesThe results have been good, given I have not had anyone come back and indicate the result was not acceptable. Recently, while observing "updated, newer, faster" machines with Windows Task Manager, there are indications Microsoft and other software vendors have chosen to use your computer as a source of data and information and sometimes that collection process degrades the performance of your computer. My opinion… Older and and probably slower computers are more heavily impacted by unnecessary data collection and communication. Some of the processes that collect and forward your data (over the internet) can be turned off. There are at least two tools that can "turn off" some of the Microsoft data collection.
  
-===== HD (Hard Drive) or SSD (Solid State Drive) and Slow PC =====+One is known as [[https://www.reddit.com/r/TronScript/comments/oqe6qg/tron_v1200_20210723_completely_remove_support_for/|TronScript]]. Tronscript has a lot of options and functionality. My recommendation… Do not use TronScript unless you are willing to read and understand the script. The heart of TronScript is written in Windows Shell.
  
-For many years PC's were delivered with a Hard Drive. The electrical mechanical components in a HD contribute significantly, to the slowness of booting, loading a program and updatesIn recent years computers are available with SSDSSD is dramatically faster than HD. Computers with HD can exhibit siginficant improvements inbooting, loading a program and updates, if the HD is replaced with an SSDSSD costs have dropped significantlyIf your computer is slowan SSD upgrade will be easier on you bank account than a new computerToday (June 42019) 250gb SSD could be purchased for less than $60. It is not unusual for new PC or laptop to exceed $400.+An alternative is the set of scripts from [[https://christitus.com/windows-10-scripts/|Chris Titus]]. The scripts from Chris might be considered "pieces of Tronscript"The Chris Titus scripts are written in Windows Power ShellThere is a video about the scripts. 
 + <font inherit/inherit;;#e67e22;;inherit>//**Update: July 222022**//</font> : Chris Titus has evolved/improved the tool for WindowsReference this: [[https://christitus.com/windows-tool/|Chris Titusultimate.]] Be CAREFULthis tool has lot of features!! 
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 +Using either of the scripts mentioned above implies the need to use "cmd" window or a "power shell" window. BE CAREFUL!.
  
 ===== Analysis ===== ===== Analysis =====
  
-Slow PC is a symptom with many causes. Determining why the PC is slow, requires analysis.+Slow PC is a symptom with many causes. Determining why the PC is slow, requires analysis. The past few years of experience indicates….. Most of the time, bad performance is accompanied by a very busy HD ( hard drive).
  
 If the PC will get to the point of letting you log in, then the next step might be: If the PC will get to the point of letting you log in, then the next step might be:
  
-Observe what the PC is doing with the Task Manager. The Task Manager is like the dash board of a car. It can indicate what part of the PC is overheating or running low on resources. Here is some knowlege about [[https://www.lifewire.com/task-manager-2626025|Task Manager]].+Observe what the PC is doing with the [[https://www.lifewire.com/task-manager-2626025|Task Manager]]. The [[https://www.lifewire.com/task-manager-2626025|Task Manager]] is like the dash board of a car. It can indicate what part of the PC is overheating or running low on resources. Here is another reference for[[https://www.howtogeek.com/405806/windows-task-manager-the-complete-guide/Windows Task Manage]]r. 
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 +If you need to "drill down" or develop a deeper understanding of a single program, the [[https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/28/a-detailed-windows-resource-monitor-guide/|Windows Resource Monitor]], offers additional features.
  
 Things the Help Center volunteers frequently discover with the Task Manager are: Things the Help Center volunteers frequently discover with the Task Manager are:
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   - The system is configured to invoke/start unnecessary programs at system boot. The solution. Disable the unnecessary programs at boot time. One tool that facilitates this action is the [[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns|autoruns program from Sysinternals.com.]]   - The system is configured to invoke/start unnecessary programs at system boot. The solution. Disable the unnecessary programs at boot time. One tool that facilitates this action is the [[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns|autoruns program from Sysinternals.com.]]
   - The Windows Task Manager also has a Tab labeled Startup, that allows enabling and disabling programs that start at boot time.   - The Windows Task Manager also has a Tab labeled Startup, that allows enabling and disabling programs that start at boot time.
 +  - The HD ( hard drive) stays very busy (100%) for several minutes after restart.
  
 ===== How do you invoke the Task Manger? ===== ===== How do you invoke the Task Manger? =====
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   - Right-click the Taskbar and click on **Task Manager**.   - Right-click the Taskbar and click on **Task Manager**.
   - Open Start, do a search for **Task Manager**  and click the result.   - Open Start, do a search for **Task Manager**  and click the result.
-  - **Use**  the Ctrl Shift Esc keyboard shortcut. +  - **Use**  the Ctrl Shift Esc keyboard shortcut. 
-  - **Use**  the Ctrl Alt Del keyboard shortcut and click on **Task Manager**.+  - **Use**  the Ctrl Alt Del keyboard shortcut and click on **Task Manager**.
 ===== Now What? ===== ===== Now What? =====
  
 You should see something like this: You should see something like this:
  
-//{{:computerclub:helpcenter:capture.png?nolink&2361x1039|Task Manager}}//+//{{.:capture.png?nolink&1024|Task Manager}}//
  
-Make sure the "Process" tab is selected. Now you should see columns for CPU, Memory, Disk and Network. If the system is SLOW then one of those columns probably indicate something close to 100%. A system that is //**not**  //exhibiting slow behaviour, usually indicates values below 10% for CPU and DISK. It is not uncommon for just a couple of programs to be contributing to high utilization of CPU or Disk.+Make sure the "Process" tab is selected. Now you should see columns for CPU, Memory, Disk and Network. If the system is SLOW then one of those columns probably indicate something close to 100%. A system that is //**not**// exhibiting slow behavior, usually indicates values below 10% for CPU and DISK. It is not uncommon for just a couple of programs to be contributing to high utilization of CPU or Disk.
  
 ===== Tell Task Manager to sort on CPU or Disk ===== ===== Tell Task Manager to sort on CPU or Disk =====
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 Clicking on the **Disk**  column will sort the columns based on Disk utilization. The Process using the most Disk resource will be at the top of the list. Clicking on the column again will reverse the sort order. Clicking on the **Disk**  column will sort the columns based on Disk utilization. The Process using the most Disk resource will be at the top of the list. Clicking on the column again will reverse the sort order.
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 +Most performance problems exhibit high disk consumption. Why? HD (Hard Drives) are most often the neck of the funnel, when it comes to getting something done on a computer. There are times when a computer does not have enough memory, and it starts "swapping" to the hard drive, but that is not what we typically see in the Help Center.
  
 ===== Windows Resource Monitor ===== ===== Windows Resource Monitor =====
  
-A next step in developing an understaning of "what is my computer doing" might include Windows Resource Monitor.  Resource Monitor can provide more details about what resources an individual process is consuming.    If you want to see all the servers that one web page needs, use Resource Monitor.    The internet is truly a //**web**//  on dependencies.+A next step in developing an understanding of "what is my computer doing" might include Windows Resource Monitor. Resource Monitor can provide more details about what resources an individual process is consuming. If you want to see all the servers that one web page needs, use Resource Monitor. The internet is truly a //**web**//  on dependencies.
  
 Here is one item about [[https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/28/a-detailed-windows-resource-monitor-guide/|Windows Resource Monitor]] Here is one item about [[https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/28/a-detailed-windows-resource-monitor-guide/|Windows Resource Monitor]]
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 ===== References: ===== ===== References: =====
  
-Do a google search for: "troubleshooting with task manager".+Do a Google search for: "troubleshooting with task manager".
  
 [[https://www.pcworld.com/article/224448/windows_task_manager_troubleshooting_tips.html|Windows 7 Task Manager]] [[https://www.pcworld.com/article/224448/windows_task_manager_troubleshooting_tips.html|Windows 7 Task Manager]]
  
 An alternative to Windows Task Manager is [[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer|Sysinternals Process Explore]]r. Process Explorer has additional features. The [[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon|Sysinternals Process Monitor utility]] is a more powerful tool for analyzing "why does my computer boot so slow?". An alternative to Windows Task Manager is [[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer|Sysinternals Process Explore]]r. Process Explorer has additional features. The [[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon|Sysinternals Process Monitor utility]] is a more powerful tool for analyzing "why does my computer boot so slow?".
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 +==== Microsoft Software Protection Platform Services ====
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 +This is an interesting thread at Microsoft… [[https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/microsoft-software-protection-platform-service/18cd96d1-aa07-4678-a8e8-493e02845959|High CPU usage by MSPPS]]
  
  
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